I can relate in that I myself am definitely a passionate person who likes to make an educated decision about the best way to do something and then go for it. I am the person that goes to the library to look up consumer reports before making a large purchase. Whether it is a gas grill or a minivan, I am not comfortable making a decision without feeling like I have a good grasp on all the options, pros, and cons.
I definitely see the pros to eating organic, but the one BIG con is that in my area, it is so expensive! The one and only time I bought a bag of organic grapes... it was six dollars!! I just couldn't justify that... so then my brain rationalizes and says, "Megan, your parents' generation grew up on non organic produce, and they are just fine!"
I actually use that phrase a lot.... because it makes me feel better about feeding my kids something that probably is sub par.
I have tried to make some small changes like switching from margarine to spreadable butter and making sure the milk I buy says that the cows are not given rBST. Again, organic milk is not in the budget at $6 a gallon!
We do shop at the farmers' markets during the spring, summer, and fall, and we have started buying fresh beef and other meat products. Sew, you are totally right, the quality and taste is soo much better than supermarket meat!
I also see the value in using more natural cleaning products, and I see the benefit of using baking soda and vinegar. However, I do love my magic erasers... and I don't trust the mildew in our shower to stay under control without something a little more abrasive. Bleach water, anyone?
However, when it comes to my shampoo, facial cleansers, toothpaste, soap, and laundry detergent, I am just too much a creature of comfort! The same goes for my microwave, and I just can't sacrifice the convenience of quick reheating....That said, I may be willing to consider boiling water in my teapot for tea rather than heating water in the microwave.... :)
I do carefully select our family sunscreens based on the EWG sunscreen ratings, and since budget is a concern, I am okay with our sunscreens carrying a 3 rating even though 0-2 is recommended.
I also select my deodorant off the shelf by which brand has the least amount of aluminum in it, and Dove wins at the moment.
However, my love of Splenda also falls into the comfort category... I have done a lot of reading on it because I know that some people have serious concerns about it. However, my humble google research has found that in studies, massive amounts of Splenda had to be consumed (as in thousands of packets per day) before seeing any negative effects whatsoever.
And since I never consume more than 5 to 10 packets spread among 3 sometimes 4 cups of coffee or tea during a single day (10 is on the extreme side and rarely happens), I don't feel that I am at risk for negative effects. Also I know for a fact that in one packet of Splenda, there is only one drop of sucralose. The rest of the packet is just a starch called malodextrin that acts as a filler. I decided not to stress over 5 to 10 drops of sweetner a day.
As for my coffee itself, I know there is also controversy over chemicals being used to decaffeinate coffee. The simple answer is to only drink regular coffee. My problem is that I don't drink caffeine at all because it gives me the jitters, but I love coffee! So when I first heard this concern, I decided to do some research to understand it a little bit better.
We drink Folgers coffee at home, and their process basically includes steaming the beans to bring the caffeine to the surface of the bean, and then they use a chemical called ethyl acetate to remove the caffeine. A trace amount of the ethyl acetate may be left in the coffee. However! Ethyl acetate is actually a chemical naturally found in bananas, apples, and pineapples! Folgers says that it would take consuming 500 cups of their coffee to equal the amount of ethyl acetate found in one very ripe banana....
That information is good enough for me, and I am happily continuing to enjoy my decaf coffee!
So overall, my philosophy is just to do the best I can with the budget we have, and I try to make the best decisions with the information I have. :)
There is no reason to stress, and you lovely granola girls are inspiring me to take a closer look at things we take for granted. Thank you for that!
Who knows, maybe in ten years, I will be making my own deodorant out of corn starch and baking soda! ;)
I agree with you! it can be so expensive- esp since I live in the city. Maybe when I move out to the country (aka-burbs)- I can afford it more. However, foods do taste so much better organic!
ReplyDeleteI am a splenda gal too!! And as far as deodorant...I think Secret beats out Dove anyday ;)
I love hearing your thoughts! I'm doing a post on this very topic. It's turning out to be rather long, so I've changed it into a 6 part series all next week. Sunday is all about why I'm NOT organic. :) I love how you research and are comfortable with your middle of the road approach. Don't we all have to be middle of the road to survive? Too much extreme isn't healthy.
ReplyDeleteI haven't alwasy been so granola- in act, over the last 9 months, J and I keep asking each other, "When did this happen to us?!?" We think it's hilarious.
My no soap/shampoo/deoderant thing is an experiment. We'll see if it lasts. Honestly it's so cheap and works so well that I suspect it will. I'm GREEN in the cash sense! :)
Check out the series next week!
I hear you on the organic food front - I have 6 children including 2 teen boys (both now over 6 feet tall) who eat me out of house and home...
ReplyDeleteMy "granola-ness" includes buying organic milk for my 12 yo girl and all younger children (the teens chug gallons, that is just non-rBST stuff)...organic apples and bananas.... And once a year we buy half an organically grass-raised cow (when it runs out we go back to the regular stuff)...and I alternate days between caffeinated and decaf coffee (thanks for that research)...
Oh, and I nurse my babies (for a looonnnngggg time)...
That's it at the moment. I am always happy to learn and see what others are
doing, but that is where my time, effort and $ goes in the "food and health" category these days
Carla
www.bringinghenryhome.blogspot.com
Great perspective! :) Hubby and I approach things like this too especially since he is very resistant of "going green." :) The one thing I try to do is buy the fruits and veggies that I know do benefit from being organic (for example, bananas it doesn't matter because you just peel them. But bell peppers, strawberries etc could benefit). My family has Parkinson's disease and a fair amount of abdominal cancers in it, so yeah, reducing pesticide exposure is a big one for me (Sadly, being the cynic that I sometimes am, I don't see prior generations as being okay. I am working on having a sunnier outlook lol). I also want to switch to more natural cleaners just because I do think they work. But I think we'd all go insane (and broke) if we obsessed over every little thing. The stress alone would probably have more adverse health effects than the products. :)
ReplyDeleteThe job of the media is to sell papers. (Or ad time on TV.)
ReplyDeleteThey do this by having a large portion of their "product" be as sensational as they can make it. The job of a researcher is to get grants. They do this by finding something sensational to report in their work. So the researchers feed 80,000,000 packets of Splenda to a 6 ounce rat and when the rat gets cancer, the media reports it as "Splenda causes cancer."
This happens ALL THE TIME. Remember how the alar scare almost destroyed the apple industry? And the banning of DDT has brought back malaria from an almost wiped-out disease to a disease that 250 MILLION people get every year. Flawed research by people with a hardcore green agenda and sensational media accounts by non-scientist talking heads are to blame.
Since wiping out bogeymen like smallpox and polio (to a great extent), we feel the need to create new bogeymen with all our leisure time.
We have real, actual bogeymen in the world. The Pill, for one, actually and substantially causes health problems including stroke. The Western diet actually and substantially causes heart disease. Lack of exercise actually and substantially causes a host of health issues.
I am all for being environmentally sensitive. Organic produce is better for the planet, and I buy it when I can. Fewer chemicals are better for the planet. Less waste (shampoo bottles, deodorant containers) is a good thing.
I just wish people didn't feel the need to try and scare people into environmentalism or healthy living. I don't eat red meat because its production is harmful to the planet in so many ways, but I'm not about to tell you red meat causes cancer or heart disease because it does NOT, in moderation.
So don't sweat your Spenda or your Dove.
Moderation - u r doin it rite.
;)
Cathy- excellent point on the pill! You say, "Organic produce is better for the planet" but can you be sure of that? To grow the same amount of food without pesticides and fertilizers takes a heck of a lot more land. Land that will require many fossil fuels to plow, till and harvest. That's not so good for the planet either, eh? I just don't think it's as black and white as people make it out to be. There are many angles to consider before making a definitive ruling on organic and pesticides.
ReplyDeleteAlso- regardless of how much sugar it takes to cause cancer- fake sugar just grosses me out and gives me the creeps. There's my objective opinion!
Oh, and Megan- your point on coffee...that's one of those things that I chose to not care about! I love my morning cup of coffee!!! And it's half-caff so I can have a second cup guilt free!!! Maybe one day I"ll quit, but for now, I'm clinging to my coffee! :) There's MY middle of the road-ness! :)
Many people think I am crunchy, but I actually think I am middle of the road.
ReplyDeleteMegan I love this post! :) Totally on the same page. Also---I did a lot of research on sweeteners when I worked for a big foods company one summer and I found the same thing - you'd have to have a LOT of it for a LONG time to ever do any damage. So don't worry! :)
ReplyDeleteL, Yes, raising crops organically depletes fewer nutrients from the soil, contaminates no groundwater, and encourages crop rotation which also keeps soil healthy.
ReplyDeleteHowever, it is certainly true that pesticides and herbicides allow farmers to grow FAR more food which feeds FAR more people. And THAT is why I am middle of the road. I am pro feeding people.
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I despise fake sugar and never eat it.
But my point was it won't necessarily kill anything. (Except your palate, ba dump bump.)
Pesticides, insecticides and fertilizers (do your flowers flourish more with a little plant food, yes) are not just used so we can feed FAR more people. They are necessary to grow a crop on a large scale successfully, period. If you dont have those elements...the crop will be eaten by a bazillion bugs or be attacked by some crazy fungus...rot...and then fall to the ground. Its not so we can grow FAR more food (although it helps)...its so we can just GROW the food, period...ya know?
ReplyDeleteCathy, can you explain this? "I don't eat red meat because its production is harmful to the planet in so many ways." Are you talking about a larger scale beef operation?
Find a local farmer who raises beef cattle and buy a side of beef...he would be more than happy to feed one out for your purchase and then have it butchered in any way you like...you can also ask the farmer a ton of questions in regards to how it is fed and maintained.
I'm totally middle of the road too! ;) Believe it or not! hahahaha
ReplyDeleteDo you know I absolutely love SPLENDA!!! LOVE IT! I can not drink my coffee without it or eat my rice chex without it.
I promise I'm not trying to convert you on this one. But I have a bottle of bleach water in my shower right now. But I read that you could use staight vinegar for the mold in the shower. I was completely skeptical. COMPLETELY since I absolutely HATE a dirty shower. I started using it when I switched and I haven't seen any mold. I had more mold when I used bleach. I just spray it down after each shower when I remember. I'm getting ready to throw my bleach water away.
Now I was completely skeptical about the whole deodorant thing as well, ask Lauren. But now I love it. It's rather easy to make and put in an empty secret bottle. And it works. I live in the South, walk around in the heat with teh baby strapped to me and I even didn't shower one day and it worked and did not even reapply. No smell whatsoever. I just filled my deodorant in the empty secret bottle and am probably going to throw it away because I'm not too keen on the old secret smell.
Vinegar and baking soda can replace everything from what I have seen, except for a few comforts, I love magic eraser too, even though I haven't had to use it since scouring with baking soda. My sink is pouros and I used ME on it all the time. I guess I'm just shocked that something as simple as baking soda can actually clean and I'm not a slave to the big companies. :)
I guess when you are sick as I have been for most of your life limiting chemicals & toxins is worth the extra effort for me, especially with Hannah since the damage is already done on me. Could it have played into my years of infertility, my fatigue, endo, thyroid cancer, food intolerances, body attacking itself for no good reason? I'm sure it could have been part. But I have found that it isn't hard and I love to be self sufficient. Plus it's cheap and I'm all about cheap. :) Im trying to spend less here to spend more on nutritional food.
I actually found a new farmer where I get beef for $4.25 for 1 1/2 pounds! Farmer meat isn't run through an ammonia wash. :)
I'm totally digging my tilapia bags of fish from Sams club! And I'm not too keen on buying organic produce from Mexico. :( Not my cup of tea.
One of the reasons i asked if babies had to be on cows milk after nursing on fb is becuase im too cheap to want to buy milk and i dont see the nutritional benefit. :)
omg my comment is sooo long. i hope you take it as me just talking and totally not getting confrontational....
ReplyDeleteOne more thing...One day I spent one hour and made my own detergent for $20 that lasted me a y ear. ;) Tide is $20 a month! ;) hehehehe
Like I said totally not being confrontational, I'm just a cheap skate at heart. Hence the reason I shop at thrift stores! ;)
I'm right there with you...
ReplyDeleteI am loving this discussion! I really enjoy hearing everyone's thoughts on everything.
ReplyDeleteI am open to new ideas, but for me it is about baby steps. Initially, I have to take deep breaths and relax because big changes equal stress for me sometimes even though I like to think I easily go with the flow.
I just have this desire to do everything the best way, and when people get passionate about something, I take notice because they obviously feel that they are doing it the best way. Then, if I'm not completely confident in how I'm already doing something, I start to worry and stress.
So glad to know some of you other ladies are Splenda lovers. :) haha Even though, I love it, I usually have a twinge of guilt when I reach for the little yellow packets over the raw sugar... We should form a Splenda lovers support group. ;) haha
Sew, I didn't take your comment as confrontational at all! I appreciate your thoughts about the vinegar. I may just try it! :) Like I said, I am learning a lot from you gals!
Lauren, I have to say I'm surprised that you aren't into organic, and I'm excited to read your posts!
Cathy, interesting about the view on beef and the environment. My grandpa grew up on a cattle farm, and he maintains that it is a load of bs. haha However, I have heard about the methane issues. Is there more to it?
Lauren Ransom, I'm glad you piped in! You have a great perspective being a farming family. I may be emailing you about info regarding buying bulk beef. I know you did a post on it awhile back.
Sarah, my other grandfather has Parkinsons too. It is so devastating to see his health decline. Interesting about the pesticide connection. Are there studies suggesting that? I just assumed it was genetics.
Carla, thanks for commenting! Interesting about giving different milk to the boys vs. the girls! I wouldn't have thought to do that, but I can understand it!
@four,
ReplyDeleteRight, exactly. And when the crops don't grow, we can't feed people.
Yes, it's definitely large scale typical meat operations I'm talking about.
To tell the truth, it's been so long I don't want it, period. But I would highly recommend local organic beef versus commercially produced stuff.
Oh yes, I totally get you about the whole taking things a step at a time and getting stressed out...The food used to stress me out.....Sometimes still does. Sometimes I don't care and shop at Aldi. :) hahaha
ReplyDeleteI've been slowly gradually changing over the past few years. So switching over quickly the cleaning products (when I had a ton of energy that week) was a simple fix. :)
The more I remove out of my diet the more I look for better ingredients to replace the food I took out with..
Coffee just does not taste the same with sugar or cream. :(
I could talk about this stuff all day long....I think I'm becoming a vegan meat eater. hahahaha I think it is going to be very interesting what happens when my food sensitivity results come back.
Also, I remember watching a show and in poorer countries there are not this many food sensitivies/intolerances/allergies....
Cathy no hamburger?! I love hamburgers! It's the only meat I buy on a regular basis from the farmer, plus its the cheapest.
Yeah, the cow/methane thing...it reeks of Al Gore... I'm a Texas girl and I LOVE my red meat!!!
ReplyDeleteWe love ya, Cathy!!!! :)
Yep! Just what I thought! I am middle of the road!
ReplyDeleteI am in the middle of a very similar post! Funny! We're all thinking the same thing right now!
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